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Thursday, 23 October 2025 · 2 h 55 min · 1 video · 2021–2026 council

44th Extra-Ordinary Council Meeting

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The day at a glance · 12 chapters over 175 minutes: procedure 169 min, other business (no topic tag) 4 min, governance and appointments 1 min; 6 decisions. Each block is a chapter, as wide as its time, coloured by its strongest AI topic tag; click one to jump to it.
  • Governance and appointments
  • Other business (no topic tag)
  • Procedure: roll call, apologies, breaks
  • Decision (6)
  • ◯Quorum count (1)
  • ‖Adjourned or paused (4)

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Summary

The 44th Extra-Ordinary Council Meeting, convened at the executive's request to consider a report on recruitment and appointment of the City Manager, ended without debate when the leader of executive business withdrew the report. 00:02:30 02:50:51 The Speaker then adjourned the meeting and announced the ordinary council meeting for 30 October at 10:00. 02:51:51

Before the item was reached, the Speaker granted caucus breaks to the EFF for one hour, the ANC for 45 minutes and the PA for 30 minutes. 00:15:29 01:24:37 02:15:43 The EFF and ANC caucuses ran over, and Cllr Rahn (DA) complained that there was no live feed and that the delays were abusive; the Speaker said she would look into the feed. 01:22:28 02:12:01 Cllr Magwentshu (ATM) said he had wanted a caucus before the report was withdrawn, but the Speaker said his hand went up after the leader of executive business spoke. 02:51:51

At the opening, Cllr Christians (DA) said there was no quorum; the Speaker proceeded as agreed at the rules committee, and a count found 172 councillors in the chamber. 00:00:48 00:04:53 The Speaker announced that eight ActionSA PR councillors had ceased to be councillors and welcomed Cllr Ismael Steenkamp after the Patriotic Alliance won the Ward 29 by-election. 00:02:30

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This week in council: City Manager recruitment report withdrawn at 44th Extra-Ordinary Council Meeting

In brief

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01

Chapters

12

What was discussed, in order. Click a time to watch.

  1. 00:00:48

    Opening and call to order

    The Speaker called the 44th Extra-Ordinary Council Meeting to order amid noise in the chamber. Cllr Christians objected that there was no quorum to open. The Speaker said she and he had sat in rules a few days earlier and she would follow what the rules dictated.

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  2. 00:02:30

    Welcome, purpose of the meeting and membership changes

    The Speaker welcomed dignitaries and officials and said the executive had asked her to convene the meeting to consider a report on recruitment and appointment of the City Manager, under Rule 16. She congratulated the Patriotic Alliance on winning the Ward 29 by-election and welcomed Cllr Ismael Steenkamp. She announced that eight ActionSA PR councillors had ceased to be councillors and that replacements would be sworn in later.

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  3. 00:04:53

    Quorum count

    The Speaker asked councillors to sit so legal and protocol staff could count those present, and said only seated councillors would be counted. After the count, she announced 172 councillors in the chamber and asked them to sign the register. She also asked Rules Committee members to be seated first at future sittings.

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  4. 00:11:09

    Applications for leave of absence

    The Speaker read out written apologies and then took apologies from caucus representatives. Cllrs Boer, Avant-Smith and Mofokeng gave apologies for their members, and representatives of the EFF, IFP and ActionSA did the same. The Speaker then asked that the apologies be noted as received.

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  5. 00:15:29

    Recommendations to council and EFF request for caucus

    The Speaker moved to recommendations to council and asked the leader of executive business to table. Before this, Cllr Mogapi requested a one-hour EFF caucus. The Speaker granted it and asked that everyone be back at 11:15.

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  6. 01:22:28

    Resumption after EFF caucus

    The Speaker asked the rowdy chamber to settle after the EFF caucus, which ran about two minutes over. She asked Cllr Mogapi to report back, and Mogapi said the EFF was ready to proceed.

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  7. 01:24:37

    ANC requests 45-minute caucus

    As the council returned to recommendations, Cllr Mofokeng asked for a 45-minute ANC caucus. The Speaker granted it, warned that there was no lunch provided, and set the return time at 12:05.

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  8. 02:12:01

    Late return and live feed complaint

    The Speaker asked ANC councillors to come in, as the caucus ran about five minutes over. Cllr Rahn complained that there was no live feed, that there was only one item on the agenda, and that the delays were abusive. The Speaker said she would look into the live feed and that it worked on her phone, then said Cllr Mofokeng was ready to continue.

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  9. 02:15:43

    Patriotic Alliance requests 30-minute caucus

    Cllr Kaldine raised her hand and asked for a 30-minute PA caucus. The Speaker criticised councillors for taking advantage of the rules but granted it and set the return time at 12:40.

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  10. 02:48:13

    Return from PA caucus

    The Speaker asked for the PA's report-back but held it until the leader of executive business, the Mayor, the chief whip and the chair of chairs were back, since they had to table the item. When they were in place, Cllr Kaldine reported that the PA was ready to proceed.

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  11. 02:50:51

    Executive withdraws the City Manager recruitment report

    The council resumed on recommendations and the leader of executive business was asked to table. Instead of tabling, the leader rose to withdraw the report on the City Manager recruitment and appointment process.

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    Also discussed: ActionSA: Cllr Chuma will abstain and asks for a revised report (8 May 2025)

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  12. 02:51:51

    ATM caucus request, announcements and adjournment

    Cllr Magwentshu said he had wanted a caucus break before the report was withdrawn. The Speaker said his hand went up after the leader of executive business spoke. She announced the ordinary council meeting for 30 October at 10:00 and a councillors' imbizo in Alberton the next day with transport provided, then adjourned the meeting.

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02

Promises

4

Commitments with a date, an amount or a 'we will'.

On 5 November 2026 (when this page was built): 0 overdue, 0 due in the next 30 days, 1 with no date. Overdue first; dates are AI readings of what was said; tap or hover a label for how. All promises.

03

Decisions

6

What council approved, rejected or put off.

  • 00:15:13

    Applications for leave of absenceapproved

    The Speaker asked whether the apologies were noted as received, and the council moved on to recommendations.

  • 00:16:22

    EFF request for one-hour caucusapproved

    The Speaker granted the caucus, to return at 11:15.

  • 01:25:06

    ANC request for 45-minute caucusapproved

    The Speaker granted the caucus, to return at 12:05.

  • 02:15:53

    Patriotic Alliance request for 30-minute caucusapproved

    The Speaker granted the caucus, to return at 12:40.

  • 02:51:43

    Report on the recruitment and appointment process of the City Managerwithdrawn

    The leader of executive business withdrew the report before it was tabled or debated.

  • 02:53:19

    44th Extra-Ordinary Council Meetingadjourned

    The Speaker adjourned the meeting after the report was withdrawn; the ordinary council meeting is set for 30 October 2025 at 10:00.

04

Attendance and conduct

43

Who was away and why, as said in the chamber.

Apologies read out 35

Arriving late (13)
Kunene, Masuku*, Tshwaku, Rambani, Kgeletsane, Mathe*, Lobi, Morero, Mgcina, Khanyile, Mkhize, Zwane, Moatshe
Private business (6)
Ponsonby, Jacobs*, Hoon, Roberts, Mkhonza, De Lange
No reason given (2)
Harman, Mphefo
Leaving early (3)
Christians, Nzimande, Wissler
Other reason (1)
Ngwenya*

* Name as heard; not matched to exactly one councillor.

MMC or Mayor not present for their business 2

  • 00:15:34

    The Executive Mayor was absent, so the leader of executive business was asked to present the recommendations.

  • 02:48:47

    The chair did not see the leader of executive business or the Mayor in the chamber when the item was due to be tabled.

Sound or equipment problem 3

  • 01:24:06

    A councillor's microphone was not working and IT was asked to check the mics.

  • 02:12:35

    Cllr Rahn reported there was no live feed; the chair said it was live on her phone.

  • 02:50:32

    The councillor reporting back was told to use a working microphone.

Warned or stopped by the chair 3

  • 00:01:39

    The chair asked councillors on her right to stop talking and move in.

  • 01:22:40

    The chair asked rowdy councillors to settle down, saying she did not want to call names.

  • 02:14:21

    The chair asked councillors to sit and settle while a speaker was being heard.

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Transcript

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